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Unread Jun 21st, 2002, 09:29 PM   #1
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"my" species

it came to my attention that theyre pretty much a rip off air's..... i really like them..... but i dont know how to change em to make them more original....

my male

air guitar's males

my female

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Unread Jun 21st, 2002, 11:15 PM   #2
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hey cool, youre from chicago too! *L*
i looked at your characters and air's characters...i really don't think you'd need to change anything. the hair is obviously way differnet, as is the tail and body build (i think). perhaps you should mail Air and get her thoughts on it, but from just seeing your art and hers next to eachother, i really don't think that yours would be too similar at all.
but as with all characters, try to make sure that individual patterns and markings stay unique, because that is usually where people will get picky. that and outright tracing a character and redoing colors, but it's obvious that isn't what you've done.
i like your characters, what are they called?
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Unread Jun 22nd, 2002, 08:01 AM   #3
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kypathaway..... which my little neighbor came with..... which is very similar to air's kyrinavis..... just for that fact i think i was altering it to cerpathaway..... but then air was gettting edgy on the similarities, and i dont blame her. see, theyre both canine-feline.... which i had no idea airs were, i thought they were just canine......
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Unread Jun 22nd, 2002, 08:53 AM   #4
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yea.. i know that it is a bit hard to let go of something such as a name or changing the species/char.. if airguitar wants you to change it though, i would respect her wishes..
but i dont see very many similarities.. i dont /think/ canine/feline crosses are very uncommon, but i dont know..
the name isnt /very/ similar, just the first two letter but 'ky' is an unusual combination.. if your neighbor came up with it, as you said, i think it may be ok.. but discuss it with AG.. or change it so it is pronounced the same, but spelled different such a 'kaipathaway'
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really cool species tho
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Unread Jun 22nd, 2002, 09:48 AM   #5
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yeah changing the name wouldnt be a problem..... but AG is edgy on the similarities of the species and i dont know how to change them so shes not..... and like i said, i dont blame her for being edgy at all... i probably would be too
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Unread Jun 22nd, 2002, 07:40 PM   #6
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you know i love and respect your art toasty.. i think mainly the females are so alike.. maybe just change the hair style, add spikes, horns, make very long ears... theres lots of things you can do..

its nice you're going to change for ag, and i know she asked you nicely..

don't be so hard onyourself, its not like a purposeful malicious act.. you just happened to come up with something alot like airs, maybe it was in your mind..

like.. i have my tsukis and tsk has her aicus, i thought my tsukies were different enough from hers to not cause problems, but i got much flak from other ppl.. i asked tsk and she said it was okay.. but... even though i really really love my tsukies, i would probablly change something about them if she asked me too....

id feel bad about losing them, but i wouldn't feel bad about myself..

anyways, i'm sure you can come up with something dif, or even ag will help you if you want..

you have a nice basic idea there....
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Unread Jun 22nd, 2002, 07:56 PM   #7
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Toasty & I already suggested what to do on this topic, we both came to a conclusion and agreed. The name "Kypathaway" I dont think is too close to 'Kyrinavis". The 'ky' to me doesnt matter. "Kyrinavis" is made up of my boyfriend's name and my own name. "Ky" for Kyle, "rin" from Erin, and "avis" from his last name, Davis. I dont mind the name Kypathaway at all, we didnt really discuss it, but I want her to know it's totally fine with me about the name. I dont like this subject popping up so much, I feel kinda bad, and also, I am not in the shape to deal with this right now. I love Toasty and their talent with their art. We are not fighting or anything. If you want me to thoughly explain why I find this conflicting, I can post again later
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Unread Jun 22nd, 2002, 08:54 PM   #8
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yes, ag.... id appreciate that a lot.... i really respect you and your work, and i dont want to make you uncomfortable in any way
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Unread Jun 23rd, 2002, 08:40 AM   #9
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Thanks Toasty
You dont mind if I show you what I mean do you?
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Unread Jun 23rd, 2002, 09:53 AM   #10
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not at all
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Unread Jun 24th, 2002, 06:32 PM   #11
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Alright, here's my opinion and what I saw.
First off, my Kyrinavis is mainly canine, with the exception for my females which take on feline features (ex: leopard like tail).
The marking in the female Kypathaway's arm is exactly the same as all my Kyrinavis have, its a marking for the whole species also known as the 'true colour'.
Both Kypathaways have coloured tipped ears, as do all Kyrinavis.
My male Kyrinavis have fox like tales like the female Kypathaway.
There is a blaze going up the female Kypathaway's nose, all my Kyrinavis have that as well, same with special markings under the eyes.
The female Kypathaway and the male seem to have different hair styles, the female's looks straighter and longer, while the male's seems to be more spiked. Although my male Kyrinavis have majorly spiked hair, I kinda shugged off the male Kypathway's hair. My female Kyrinavis have straighter, longer hair with spiked ends.
The female Kypathaway caught my attention more than the male.

Female Kypathaway: http://www.itsmysite.com/pippin/images/fkypathaway.jpg

Female (Arctic)Kyrinavis:http://fanart.lionking.org/imgarchiv...huTwilight.jpg
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http://fanart.lionking.org/imgarchiv...nFlameStar.jpg
Male: (forest)http://fanart.lionking.org/imgarchiv...RavageFull.jpg
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Unread Jun 24th, 2002, 07:19 PM   #12
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ok..... im seeing what you mean with the markings......they really didnt mean anything to me on the kypathaways..... so im sure i can change them..... i really like the style of my male though..... so im not sure how much that will change but how bout i redo em.... and post them and you tell me what you think?
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Unread Jun 24th, 2002, 07:33 PM   #13
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The male Kypathaways look cool, I dont really have a problem with them. Maybe the females should change just a bit though?
I cant wait to see the new species
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Unread Jun 24th, 2002, 07:46 PM   #14
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yes, i agree about changing the females completely..... i'll post the changes when i get the first one done
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